When Bronwen Dickey brought her new dog home, she saw no traces of the infamous viciousness in her affectionate, timid pit bull. American Pit Bulls are a very misunderstood breed. Intelligence. My uncle just went through the same bullshit. I got a behaviorist, who suggested not letting him have high-value treats like bones anymore. I have no idea how mental illnesses can manifest in canines. Researchers call these "intraspecific differences." Can you say something about Dogsbite.org? Because a lot of people who should not be owning bully breeds (or mixes) still have them and still cause incidents. And in a home where people visit, or kids come and go, it's a disaster waiting to happen. No matter what breed you ultimately choose, make sure you know what you're getting. She brought in an animal behaviorist, who recommended he be put down due to mental illness. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. He is still possessive of his other toys, but not quite as extreme. If Pit Bulls are so gentle, then why do so many people fear them? If the person says, "yeah this dog has problems and they're not fixable..." that just prolonged the inevitable which is. I figured that the story that continues to plague these dogs was a long one and I was thrilled to receive Bronwen Dickey's new book called Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon (the Kindle edition can be found here). The other 95%-plus of the U.S. & Canadian dog population have accounted for just 303 fatalities and 2,290 disfigurements combined––and more than 40% of all the recognized breeds have never been involved in any. Put the dog down. Just like people. And I say that knowing my uncle is the savior of the lost dog. This is a messed up situation. Nearly 1 million of those dogs are pit bulls — or about 2,800 pit bulls killed daily. My wife and I have dealt with behavior like this from our dog for five years and have only now decided to put her down. The dog literally sounds like it's going insane. Just a random night, he went insane. But in the end it turned out that the dog had a mass on her brain causing the change in behavior ( shown on MRI). I had to go to the hospital, and it would have been a lot worse if there hadn't been 4 adults in the room, all of whom were in arms reach of me. Across America there were millions of families living normal, uneventful lives with animals the media portrayed as monsters, and I wanted to understand how and why this stereotype came into being. Sergeant Stubby was also not nearly the war hero he has been purported to be. Now we call them all 'pit bulls.'" What Pit Bull lovers see as ADORABLE - others may see as scary. Kennel club statistics are shrinking, and dogs sold as purebreds aren't required to be registered with clubs, anyway. I bent over to open a drawer and he jumped on me, biting my arm and thrashing his head like he wanted to tear it off. We had a small rat terrier that the dog gutted as well when it got loose one time. But dogs who decide to take up biting humans are not safe dogs to own. He looked like a sunset, all red and gold. But you're absolutely correct-- OP gave it a damn good effort. The problem is not yours, and it is not solvable. Now that he has bitten his person, and so badly, and for such a minor thing, unless vetoed by the behaviorist I say that it is time he be put down. It mostly comes from fear. He was miserable, they were miserable, it was no one's fault. Thousands in vet bills and the owners would do nothing to compensate and did nothing about the dog. The growing aggression when chewing a bone/toy or being woken up strikes me as the kind of thing you often see with elderly dogs. And, because I've met a good number of pit bulls with whom I've connected in very positive ways, I've wondered about how these dogs became demonized as supposedly the most dangerous of dogs. The frenzy against Pit Bulls is nothing but blind fear fueled by the human need to find a scapegoat. There are to me, two options: one is finding a behaviorist, a real one, and consulting with that person. Not able to tell friend from foe. But you have to know when you've been beaten and act accordingly. Wish I had some advice. He loves car rides, hikes and cuddling. Beware of breed-wide stereotypes and focus on individuals, I learned a lot from Pit Bull and also from my interview. In a number of recent essays about dogs (and also one on sharks called "Shark Personalities: A Shark Isn't a SharkIsn't a Shark"), I've stressed how important it is to focus on individual animals because too many general statements are made that border on being myths about these fascinating animals (please see "Why Dogs Belong Off-Leash: It's Win-Win for All" and links therein). Pit Bull is worthy of a wide global audience and I hope it receives the attention it deserves.Â, Note: Anonymous and ad hominem comments will not be accepted.Â, Marc Bekoff's latest books are Jasper's Story: Saving Moon Bears (with Jill Robinson), Ignoring Nature No More: The Case for Compassionate Conservation, Why Dogs Hump and Bees Get Depressed: The Fascinating Science of Animal Intelligence, Emotions, Friendship, and Conservation, Rewilding Our Hearts: Building Pathways of Compassion and Coexistence, and The Jane Effect: Celebrating Jane Goodall (edited with Dale Peterson). Nope. It's not about them hating animals, or … Dreams have been described as dress rehearsals for real life, opportunities to gratify wishes, and a form of nocturnal therapy. You gave it your best shot, and provided a good life for him, and engaged everyone you were supposed to when things went wrong. There are some dogs you cannot fix. Is Your Dog Anxious? The book's description reads as follows:Â, The hugely illuminating story of how a popular breed of dog became the most demonized and supposedly the most dangerous of dogs—and what role humans have played in the transformation. Get within a foot or two of the fence and he would lunge, snap, attack the fence. 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I'm afraid of pitbulls. Pit Bulls on a whole can be dog aggressive and while this is perfectly normal, why invite the possibility of long term trouble into your home? From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days. This is why AFS/pitbulls comprise 67 percent of fatal dog attacks on humans while only 6 percent of the dog population. Aggression towards dogs is part of some breeds. People think that Pit Bulls aren’t capable of control and they can become aggressive any minute. I am afraid of any big dog, in general. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It's a tough decision, but it sounds like it is the right one. He was standing in the hall, wagging his tail (in a friendly, calm way) and watching me like he wanted me to pet him. Here are six reasons why: 1. I did some digging to find the history of where and how it all went wrong and the reason why do pit bulls attack their owners. Why do you think so many people don't like these awesome dogs without ever knowing one? I had to go to the hospital (the bite was severe) and had to tell them he bit me. I've taken him to the vet a few times for blood tests and exams and he's perfectly healthy. Sergeant Stubby was a Boston terrier, not a pit bull. Well, apparently that’s not … I headed into the kitchen and he followed me. No one can agree on how the term "pit bull" should be defined, which immediately creates an enormous problem with bite statistics. If you think that your dog smiling at you all … Make sure the breed is a good fit for your family and your lifestyle. So don't even try to make light of it. Â. The only way to know its a happy wag is when he's butt wiggling. The account makes clear that the claims about him subsequently recited as fact were originally made in jest. Stubby. Again, a dog who is dog aggressive and lives in a one dog household can be managed. Lovecraft was right about this one: "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown." I would not want to jump to this conclusion or anything, but maybe ask your vet if this could be a possibility. They are both very friendly but the youngest one (the complete pit) came from a home, where my understanding … I thought I was a good dog parent. Thank you so much for reading the book, and for this Q&A! A week ago, I brushed past him while he was asleep, and he cornered me against the wall, barking. And although the media focuses on the negative aspects, in reality they can be awesome pets for the smart owner. Dogs who are dog aggressive can make wonderful pets, if you always remember that they are not the sort of dogs you can let off leash around other dogs. Why Do Small Dogs Have So Many Psychological Problems? As a victim of a pit attack many years ago I am deeply insulted by the garbage that you purport in this book. But honestly? I wrote Pit Bull because I felt that the shadow history of the American dog had never been fully explored. Myth: Pit Bulls cannot get along with other animals. You love them, you want to help, but they are broken beyond your ability. Why Are People Afraid of Pit Bulls? I live with two Pit Bulls, females even (which some say is the worst combo), and I know from experience it’s not a fun experience. Finally, they had to put him down. The situation is rapidly devolving to where OP will now be afraid of their own pet, who will now be more on edge with the sense of timidity and fear he's getting from his primary human. This gradual decline has now turned into a downward spiral. Pit-bull expert Semencic makes a more sophisticated argument as to why pit bulls shouldn't be singled out for regulation. I am not afraid of pitbull's. But this is far from the worst of the many misrepresentations in the column & interview above. He got worse and started attacking my aunt. You find puppy smiles creepy. My own encounters with pit bulls have uniformly been friendly. we have quite a few in our neighborhood and you can see their owner can‘t handle them at all. And pitbulls I've seen seem to have the worst fucking owners. Posted Jun 02, 2016 Until I was nine and visiting at Easter and I had to use a bathroom. Pit bulls smile. i have heard things like "do not look a strange dog in the eye" and im wondering also if a dog is able to sense my fear and then be threatened or … Not just dogs, humans, that's the first thing people should rule out if they see an unprecedented severe behavioral change in adults. I'm no expert, but I'm fairly certain that dogs are not immune to mental illness. Scientific literacy is so important to democracy, and right now, at least in this country, it's at an all-time low. The neighbor's on the opposite side of the owner's had a beautiful gentle rottie. He was okay around my uncle but everyone else was fair game according to this dog. She includes anecdotes about some remarkable pit bulls, notably Sergeant Stubby, a hero of WWI, whose courageous battlefield exploits on behalf of "his" soldiers earned him meetings with Presidents and a permanent display in the Smithsonian. You gave him his best chance and 3 great years he might not have had otherwise. Could it be genetic? How do you live with yourself then, knowing that this was preventable? They (the owner of the dog) were oh so kind when they gathered him up, placed him on our front porch and left him there with no vet care. Lizars of Edinburgh, Scotland, influential in establishing many of the breed standards that are still recognized today, wrote of the dogs today known as pit bulls that, “The bull-dog differs from all others, even from the mastiff, in giving no warning of his attack by his barking. It's horrific, and it's time to stop slapping victims in the face when they share their story's. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Many people don't know where the statistics they see in the news come from, and as good citizens, we need to be able to determine which sources are credible. Now Pit bulls considered malicious killing machines and the most aggressive dog breed. He was introduced to the world by the Boston Globe on April 8, 1919, about halfway through an article entitled “Heroes Aplenty On Agamemnon,” profiling the soldiers and animals aboard a recently landed troop transport ship. Is Dairy Farming Cruel to Bright and Emotional Cows? Hobby breeding and backyard breeding are rampant. He has also been going crazy if I wake him up. It was scary to go anywhere outside. The site's founder is also contemptuous of people in the relevant sciences, including those at the AVMA, the CDC, the Animal Behavior Society, etc. One of our dogs went through something like this. (Homepage: marcbekoff.com; @MarcBekoff). What I learned was that the frightening image of the pit bull has a lot more to do with our own fears and prejudices than it does with animal behavior. With unfailing thoughtfulness, compassion, and a firm grasp of scientific fact, Dickey offers us a clear-eyed portrait of this extraordinary breed, and an insightful view of Americans’ relationship with their dogs. What kind of vet recommended that!? Anyways, I am writing because I have a pit bull mix, she doesn't look too much like a pit anymore, and a new pit bull puppy I have only had for about 2 months. He never leaves his hold, when once he has got it, while life lasts.” He's the guy you call when you find the wild, abused animal on the side of the road because three weeks with him makes him decent and loving. The Pit Bull that changed my mind was the one a police offer brought in that was shot in the head. If you've read horrifying stories about pit bulls and you don't have any positive first-hand experiences to put those stories in perspective, the reptilian part of your brain that modulates fear can guide your decisions much more easily. The dog also would get loose frequently and roam the street. And....an asshole. Of course those dogs were aggressive, they had been through a lot and were in pain. A dog who, with no provocation bites a human hard enough to send the human to the ER is a dog that is not a safe dog to own. Pit bulls have accounted for more than half of all the fatal dog attacks in the U.S. & Canada in every 10-year time frame since 1833, and for 353 fatalities and 2,930 disfigurements just since 1982, when I began keeping track. He really seems to love me, but this has seemed to change over the past year. They gave the dog away....but I 100% believe that dog should have been put down. This was my thought as well. They tried their VERY BEST to find a way to keep that dog, but that dog was not okay. I have been a firm owner, but I've never hit him or scared him or "dominated" him like Cesar Milan does if that makes sense. It sounds like OP did all the right things: training, having the vet check the dog, socializing the dog. They are asking you to control it, as they feel threatened. I am delighted to read this interview with Bronwen Dickey about her new book Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon. So you're thinking about getting a dog, but you're not sure what kind to get. She eventually stopped going outside unless it was in her car because she was scared. Lieutenant Colonel Charles Hamiliton Smith, author of The Natural History of Dogs, published in 1839-1840 by W.H. This is more than 80% of all the fatalities from rehomed dogs in humane history, in less than 10 years. Damn, I'm going through something similar with my 2 year old Great Pyrenees (nothing so dire as the OP, but he is showing signs of aggression), and this comment made me sad. While polished and professional looking, Dogsbite.org relies almost exclusively on media reports for its content, and media reports are often highly inaccurate. This was the first thing I thought. Is it the breed? They can be stubborn and agile, making unseemly people train them for attacking and illegal dog fighting. Your safety is most important here, and you might have to make the hard call to put him down. Safety for yourself and those around you (family in the same house, visitors, and neighbors) is a huge huge thing. He stood up on the fence and the dog literally ripped his arm off then ate it. I have been around many of them, and own two right now, and can tell you that I have never seen this behavior manifest at this level and intensity in any breed outside of a mental illness within the dog. He was very smart, very sweet, loved me to death, then one day out of nowhere when I wasn't interacting with him and had an adult sitting between us, he attacked me. When you know you have a dog aggressive dog, you keep him on a leash, and keep him away from other dogs. Very scary. I am. It's like a rubber band snaps in his mind when he's exposed to another dog. I second this post, that link is a very good read! Almost sounds like it was doing some kind of "stalk and attack" as if the owner was a wild animal putting his head down and letting his guard down when he bent over and the dog attacked the way it would some kind of prey. He sent a couple of people to the hospital. Further of note, while no dog adopted from a U.S. or Canadian was ever known to kill anyone from 1858 (when the first shelter adoptions on record occurred) until 1988, and only five before 2007, when national humane organizations began pressing shelters to rehome pit bulls instead of euthanizing them, forty pit bulls rehomed from animal shelters have killed people just since 2010, after having presumably passed safety screening. He had the prettiest German Shepard I'd ever seen. He has been an awesome dog, but can't be around other dogs in spite of my best efforts to socialize him well (training, puppy class, etc.). One can split hairs over the definition of "pit bull," but any way you split them, reality is that dogs in this category are about three times more likely to kill or maim someone than all of the "northern breeds" and other "wolf-like" breeds combined. She refers to them as "science whores," which alone is enough to discredit her claims. There are no bad dogs, just bad owners. These dogs were attacked, wounded and even shot. They can learn tricks and commands very easily. As I say in the book, you can't reason someone out of something he wasn't reasoned into. He was extremely dog aggressive and very aggressive to humans. How can you compare specialized breeds (like the Labrador retriever, German shorthaired pointer, etc.) Pit bulls, he says, were bred not to be aggressive to people. Wow. This is why the CDC stopped tracking fatalities by breed: Epidemiologists there realized that there were so many contributing factors involved in each incident, and narrowing down such complex events to one factor was misleading and potentially dangerous. I think that about covers it. Because dogs bearing this label have been stigmatized and pushed to the margins of society for so long, their owners often don't have access to the same pet-care resources and information about animal husbandry that others take for granted. Get the help you need from a therapist near you–a FREE service from Psychology Today. What am I doing wrong with this dog? I'm scared of him now and have been avoiding him. Most of the time, people who say such things about Pit Bull dogs - or any other breed - are really trying to say that your Pit Bull frightens them. These pictures don't lie: https://www.google.com/search?q=pit+bull+bites&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=909&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi29ueg5IrNAhUMM1IKHdj9C1oQ_AUIBigB. Ultimately, the reader concludes that in a dispassionate manner Dickey shows us that our opinions and judgments about the variety of dogs we call "pit bulls" may reveal more about us than they do about the dogs. (I discuss this at length in chapter 11 called "Looking Where the Light Is". Advice on this forum is absolutely not a substitute for professional advice from a certified behaviorist, trainer, lawyer, or medical professional. I'm not saying that this is what is going on. I found way too many papers that had slipped through the review process because no one checked their citations. This is one of the MANY reasons that the American Veterinary Medical Association stresses that "dog bite statistics are not really statistics. I can't even get myself to read it really. What if one day the dog breaks thru the drugs and bites someone else? Medical professionals leave it to the patient or patient's guardian to fill out the paperwork on what kind of dog is responsible, and often people have no idea what kind of dog it was. There is a huge difference between dog and human aggressive. As well-researched as a doctoral dissertation should be, the book presents an even-handed, logical examination of the history of the pit bull--not a single breed, but actually four, plus innumerable mixes. For one thing, as of recently, when he's chewing a bone, he will snarl and snap at the air if I go anywhere near him. It would be like me saying all people who hunt with their dogs beat, starve and neglect them and are also mean to their wife/kids. It May Be Genes Linked to Its Breed, Traces of Ourselves: The Remarkable Power of Touch. Contrary to what most consumers of media reports think, "pit bull" does not refer only to one breed—the American pit bull terrier—but at least four: the APBT, the American Staffordshire terrier, the Staffordshire bull terrier, and the American bully. It was horrifying. The psychology of breed stereotypes, fear, and prejudice, Stereotypes abound about how individuals of different breeds of dog always or almost always behave. Most of the time, he is a really happy, fun dog. Pete the Pup on the original Little Rascals was a Pit Bull. I'm disgusted about the thousands of pit bull attacks by documented pitbulls and advocates for the breed and whoever this Dickey person is, Until you've experienced an attack you won't understand. I'm scared of him now and have been avoiding him. I think that it is not the breed of the dog, but in how they are raised. Part of the reason that people fear Pit Bulls is the myth that they can … Unless someone in OP's family has been screwing with this dog unbeknownst to OP (are they in the same home? A Pit Bull war hero. In other words, if you know your dog is terribly fearful of something but they keep getting scared by it, and they are exposed to that same thing over and over, their fear can develop into an extreme reaction. I accidentally went into the room he was in and he pinned me against a wall and took a chunk out of my arm. but not all pits are mean, some are very friendly loving pets. The latest research into the accuracy of visual breed identification shows that these haphazard guesses are incorrect over 87% of the time. But she also includes accounts of attacks by dogs believed to be pit bulls. But my dog is a pitbull/boxer mix, huge, and is an incredible sweetheart. I posted that [one] (http://www.vin.com/vetzinsight/default.aspx?pid=756&catId=5861&Id=5912453) and I'll reiterate what I said. Experts were brought in and triggers were avoided. Some countries have been successful at banning them ( see the list HERE). Thank you for saying what needed to be said. Unfortunately there are lot of junk statistics when it comes to characterizing various dog breeds (“Pit Bull” isn’t really a breed either). After all, many insurance companies, housing complexes and even the whole city of Montreal flat out ban them. Studies in rodents have proven the genetic passage of fear behavior, so it's not too far off base to speculate that somewhere in this animal's lineage was a nasty dog. Pit Bulls Have Locking Jaws. I'm no expert, but I'm fairly certain that dogs are not immune to mental illness. He was a shepherd of some kind (looks like a german shepherd but solid black). Obviously, the police have a very difficult job. The dog's initial behavior towards OP- the cuddling, petting, happy dog stuff- clearly shows that he knew his place in the pecking order. Possible that it's seriously mentally ill and doesn't recognize its owner??? I do agree with the other posters though. This subreddit is a great starting point for a lot of information, but you should always verify and expand upon what you've read before putting it to use in your daily life. They had to put him down. He cornered her adult daughter in the house and bit the shit out of her. "Â, In order to know if something is "disproportionate," you have to know its correct proportion, and when it comes to the breed distribution of American dogs, we simply don't have the info to know how many dogs of each breed there are. They took his teeth out. ... That being said, as a pit bull owner, I am fully aware how dangerous she is. Pit Bulls score an 83.4% passing rate with the American Temperament Test Society. In the words of one shelter veterinarian, "We used to call mixed-breed dogs 'mutts.' Even the best dog owners in the world will meet them on occasion, on more than one because they are the last stop. Good luck OP, be safe. I don't think any of the trainers I know of, who work with tough, tough dogs would hesitate to tell OP to have the dog euthanized. Which made her wonder: How had the breed—beloved by Teddy Roosevelt, Helen Keller, and Hollywood’s “Little Rascals”—come to be known as a brutal fighter?  How do you reconcile that pit bulls are responsible for such high frequencies of dog bites? It pawed at the fence when they first moved in and the shepherd grabbed the paw, pulled the arm through the fence and skinned the arm. Even basic licensing compliance is shockingly low (sometimes, single-digit percentages) in many major metropolitan areas.Â, Those caveats aside, what we *do* know is that the number of Americans who consider themselves "pit bull owners" is steadily growing. There was a post about a month ago and the link inside may be worth a look in the meanwhile. A super-dog, if you will. The Dog Breeds with the Greatest Risk of Harming Children, 14 Dog Breeds Blacklisted by Insurance Companies, A Dog's Size and Head Shape Predicts Its Behavior. I'm sorry, sounds like you've been very good to this pup. He grapples his opponents without in the least estimating their comparative weight and powers. This sort of breedism very frequently reaches its apogee with pit bulls. how would i go about it? Finally after multiple calls from all the neighbors surrounding them, the police started giving them fines and threatening them about the dog. I don't want to say too much about it, lest I jinx myself, but it will be related to the War on Drugs. Can You Ever Judge Yourself as Good Enough? I encourage them to check out the citations and read the peer-reviewed literature for themselves. 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